Re: I love it

I started the reply below, and ultimately quit, and wrote the Blog Post about not wanting to rile...

The free trade benefit shake down is a slow process Everyone is
always more focused on now than tomorrow What if all those out sourced
jobs create markets for things they cannot make there and the US can
export them and all of a sudden we can afford the social security melt
down when all these rust belt workers start retiring? As a person
that hs been both fired and laid off I understand how much it sucks
but no company will move where labor skills are not in line with what
they pay If now the wages are TOO LOW by our standards other companies
will arrive
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as a reply to
> Yes, so the problem in the US is not the corporate tax rate. It is the fact
> that there are no penalties and plenty incentives in the US for corporations
> to outsource. That's my only point--taxes are not the primary reason
> outsourcing occurs in the US. Corporate America isn't really complaining
> about taxes right now. They've had it really good under George Bush. I
> don't like outsourcing either, but I don't blame the tax rate.
>
> On Sun, Jun 1, 2008 at 11:59 PM, Miller <l@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> The reason outsourcing occurs less in EU countries is because they incent
>> against it. Plain and simple.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Jun 1, 2008 at 11:00 PM, miss x <
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I'm sorry, but corporations pay very low taxes in the US--lower than in
>>> EU
>>> countries where outsourcing occurs less. The tax argument might make you
>>> feel good (i.e. there's someone to blame), but it is not US corporate
>>> taxes
>>> that are the problem. When you open borders and allow capital to move
>>> around to search for the biggest profit, this sort of thing will
>>> naturally
>>> happen in a rich country.
>>>
>>> Opposing NAFTA in my book is fine (those policies did, after all, make it
>>> easier for US companies to move to Mex in the first place), but blaming
>>> the
>>> tax rate is a form of denial. You'd be better to question why the CEOs
>>> of
>>> these 'poor' overtaxed companies make millions of dollars to decide to
>>> move
>>> offshore in the first place. If you want to cut down on your cost of
>>> operations, why not try scaling back the salaries of your upper
>>> management
>>> and CEOs by 20%?
>>>
>>> As a side note, I'm sick to death of people going on about taxes like it
>>> is some sort of robbery. I've spent a lot of time in southern Mexico
>>> where
>>> there is minimal tax collection, and even fewer roads. Southern Mexico
>>> has
>>> a disproportionate share of the country's resources and only one major
>>> highway to speak of. If you want to pay no taxes, then be prepared to go
>>> out and buy your four wheel vehicle and pay 8$ for gas while you're at
>>> it.
>>> There are things that constitute the collective good that only taxes can
>>> pay.
>>>
>>> belva
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jun 1, 2008 at 4:41 PM, Miss z <wrote:
>>>
>>>> I don't know where you got your data on Infosys, but I have never EVER
>>>> heard of them hiring anybody from the US, yet we've been doing business
>>>> with
>>>> them for 14 years. That is my point however on the taxes. We are our
>>>> own
>>>> worst enemies. We tax the businesses here in teh US so that we make it
>>>> so
>>>> that it is more expensive for them to do business on their own homeland
>>>> than
>>>> it is from a third world country. Other governments don't easily sell
>>>> out
>>>> on their top commodities. We are our own worse enemy.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Jun 1, 2008 at 2:27 PM, Mr x <wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Both parties were responsible for NAFTA.
>>>>> RE: outsourcing, I'm not so sure I agree with you on this one. You
>>>>> can't prevent industry from moving around to the most convenient place
>>>>> to do
>>>>> business --- outsourcing happens everywhere nowadays, including many
>>>>> protectionist countries in Europe. I remember people in the midwest
>>>>> being
>>>>> in an uproar when auto parts and car manufacturing started to shift to
>>>>> Mexico. In the end, many of those shifts reversed as companies learned
>>>>> which manufacturing activities were cheaper in the US with higher labor
>>>>> costs vs. Mexico with the cheap labor and quality issues. I think it
>>>>> is all
>>>>> relative and I'm actually in John McCain's camp on most of these
>>>>> issues.
>>>>> Those manufacturing jobs will never return to the US. We should be
>>>>> focusing on education and retraining opportunities to push people into
>>>>> advanced industries. Michigan has very regressive tax policies which
>>>>> made
>>>>> many of the core companies move out of state. It also has some of the
>>>>> worst management of any state in the US (except for their new Democrat
>>>>> Governor who is doing all she can to stop the job erosion).
>>>>> The US is well into a late economic development cycle which requires
>>>>> strong R&D to keep growing. The economic hegemony we've enjoyed Post
>>>>> WWII
>>>>> is finished. The only problem is that young people today are
>>>>> graduating
>>>>> high school at lower rates than in the past and we're seeing the first
>>>>> generation of lesser educated individuals than has ever occurred in the
>>>>> history of the US. The only growth mechanism we have is to continue
>>>>> importing graduates from overseas that specialize in Science and
>>>>> Engineering
>>>>> - but now we're competing against high salaries overseas. Pilots in
>>>>> India
>>>>> now make more than in the United States. An IT professional makes on
>>>>> par
>>>>> with a similar individual in the US. Our fresh graduate middle
>>>>> management
>>>>> staff in India all make between $45-$55,000 USD per year. It's just
>>>>> below
>>>>> what we start grads out in the US -- but not by much and it also goes a
>>>>> lot
>>>>> further in terms of purchasing power parity.
>>>>>
>>>>> Infosys (a $4B USD in annual revenue and market capitalization of more
>>>>> than $30B USD) in Bangalore India hires IT grads from the US and they
>>>>> start
>>>>> out at more than $70K with furnished apartments, a built in movie
>>>>> theater
>>>>> and golf course. In 2001 they had less than 10,000 employees --- now
>>>>> they
>>>>> have more than 88,000. Countries around the world are competing for a
>>>>> very
>>>>> limited labor pool because they all want the jobs of the future....
>>>>>
>>>>> dnb
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Jun 1, 2008, at 12:19 PM, Miss Y wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Regardless, both the dems and the repubs pushed NAFTA through. The
>>>>> dems
>>>>> also opened up trade without as many restrictions as other countries
>>>>> and
>>>>> that is why we're seeing such a big push for offshoring of all our
>>>>> technical
>>>>> work. These countries are by far no better, they are just so much more
>>>>> cheaper. It's sad, because the US doesn't really have a strong hold in
>>>>> any
>>>>> other industry like they do the technical field, and now we're loosing
>>>>> our
>>>>> position in that.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Jun 1, 2008 at 10:07 AM, Mr x wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> NAFTA was negotiated by Bush prior to Clinton being elected. Bill
>>>>>> Clinton just helped it get approved by Congress because there was so
>>>>>> much
>>>>>> opposition to the agreement. I think NAFTA is a net positive for all
>>>>>> countries although there are negative effects occurring in each place.
>>>>>> The
>>>>>> kinds of jobs lost in the US because of NAFTA (textiles and
>>>>>> manufacturing)
>>>>>> probably would have been lost anyway by the free flow of capital.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think healthcare is the biggest issue facing the US in the next 10
>>>>>> years. It is the one area that will probably distinguish the haves /
>>>>>> have
>>>>>> nots going forward and really tear at the social fabric of the US.
>>>>>> People
>>>>>> cannot afford to get sick in the US - even if they have insurance. I
>>>>>> can't
>>>>>> believe how much I pay now for insurance through the Wash Post vs.
>>>>>> what I
>>>>>> had to pay back in 2001 when I started. I can't imagine not having
>>>>>> health
>>>>>> insurance --- because I would be paranoid that any illness would be a
>>>>>> potential for financial ruin.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> dnb
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On May 31, 2008, at 11:56 AM, Mr Y wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> NAFTA was mostly passed because of a combo of Bill Clinton and
>>>>>>> Republicans.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>

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Sometimes I don't want to rile people up

Sometimes, I am up for a heated discussion. Others, I will let it go, because I know the other side is so deeply entrenched in their opinions, it is like arguing with a drunk person. Not unlike debating the bible with a fundamentalist, that may have read it, but could not comprehend the TV Guide.

Today I started a reply to a listerve that had people complaining about NAFTA. I am a long time free trade advocate. I am also, apparently heartless. People cannot seem to understand how they should be able to make $20 an hour sewing Lee Denims, yet, only want to pay $10 for them at Wal-Mart. In the long run, people can only get paid what they are contributing to the enterprise. If their costs, push up the product cost, so the company cannot make a decent return on their investment, they will shut down. With Nafta a solution to shutting down, is moving production elsewhere. The effect to the local Jeans worker is exactly the same. No Job in Jeans. But its Nafta's fault. They then point out that the "Ferners" don't make as much, and they are exploiting them etc. Perhaps at first. But as other manufacturers see the windfall of profits, they follow suit and eventually drive up the wages in the "low area". Eventually, those new jeans laborers are going to be affluent enough to travel, or buy some American goods than cannot be outsourced to wherever. Not every item is suited for production everywhere in the world.

If the low wage workers, are not of the quality of the ones they replaced, more will be required to produce the same amount of goods. This in turn increases the cost of production so after all the adjustments. things level out. Imagine if the USA did not have a Nafta between the states. We do, we just call it the interstate commerce commission. Imagine without it, Alabama decided they wanted to protect their native Orange groves, and put a huge tax on importing Florida Oranges. Maybe not much would happen. Alabama is close to the range, so maybe the southern beach coast could be converted to orange groves, and there would be enough OJ for Birmingham and Mobile and beyond. Maybe one Florida Grove would go under. Anyway. Now suppose Maine did the same thing. But to grow oranges in main, require hot houses, These hot houses drive the cost of local oranges 500% of the cost of Floridia Oranges, even with the high cost of fuel. Maybe Mainers would stop buying OJ. Maybe they would all get skurvy. Maybe they would pay the higher prices, but stop using Real Maple syrup on their pancakes. This costs a syrup maker a loss, and he decides to sell off some of his maple acreage to the loggers to pay his taxes. The loggers can no longer sell their logs to New Hampshire and beyond because of an overland transport tax. The only outlet for Main Loggers is the paper mill and book industry. The book industry is happy for the cut rate paper, since their profits have been squeezed for years too. They can finally print all the paperback romance novels wanted by the homemakers of America. But the poor ladies of Alabama cannot buy the books and put orange juice on the tables for their kids. Its titaliation or scurvy.

I am not denying the heartbreak of losing a long time job. I have been fired and laid off both, and it sucks the big egg. But if we can just suffer through this adjustment period. Allow the shakedown to work its way around North America. We should all be richer. This idea is something we have known since Elizabethan times. We need to be forward thinking. American industry is floundering largely because they are so concerned with next quarters reports to the market. The Market punishes companies for taking a long term view. We have got to find a way to create a way to pay for our future social security retiree explosion when the baby boomers retire. New industries should evolve and people may have to move or come up with a way to make their living where they are. Our immigrant ancestors, left the old country with very little. They cleared land, and created a living for themselves, which was not rich at first, but over time created value and wealth. Our current state of affluence has a lot to do with the rest of the world's production capacity being destroyed. Prior to WW2, we were not a rich and prosperous nation. We made do. I cannot think of a current analogy - maybe The Ukraine. Lots of bread, but not the juggernaut most Americans feel is our birth-rite today.

Its very possible the fabulous 50s which created the suburbs, the 2nd car, Color TV was just an anomaly in history. And we are adjusting back to our long term equilibrium. Japan had a similar expansion and retraction. In the long run, the economy does not allow windfalls to perpetuate. Of course, in the long run we are all dead.

In the long run there are no trees on Easter Island. There used to be trees. Thats is how they rolled the big Moai from the quarries to their spots on the shore watching over the sea. Did the natives understand once they used up all the trees, there would be no more? Some may have. But in the short term urgency of needing the trees to roll the heads to the ocean, and the seeming never ending supply of the trees, no one bothered conserving, or recycling the things. The last tree was probably just a scrubby sapling no one thought twice about, cutting down to make a fishing pole. Whoops.

-a Mind concious of what is right.

This is the motto on the Phillips coat of arms.

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Religion Faith Mystery Magic

I start to think about the theory of relativity. How, as an object approaches the speed of light time slows down and the differences of past and future don't work in the way expected.

Then as I think about my title name or "word for" my own ideas of the afterlife, I recall the phrase "Children of the Light". This is a biblical title used in Thes. 5:5 and Eph. 5:8. The Religious Society of Friends were also once referred to by this name. There is also a new age movement with a similar name as well. But ... back to my stream of consciousness.

If we are indeed "children of light" could we perhaps be evolving toward a state of being where we are light? Not unlike an astral being, or a star itself. This state of nirvana may well be our intended state and our current form is but that of pupae. And perhaps the senility state of Alzheimer's is a last stage toward the astral state of light, and our thought process mimic that of matter as it too approaches the speed of light.

I caught something on the science channel about an outgrowth on string theory called "membrane" theory - which you can imagine as to string theory what a bed sheet is to a piece of thread. Except this membrane
envelopes a "universe" and each such has its own laws of physics. They all exist in the same physical space, but are invisible to one another due to frequency. Not unlike how the same cable that used to
give us only 36 channels, not can give us 900 plus internet plus telephone and cook an egg.

Expounding on this theory, I am seeing applications that can explain - ghosts, deja vu, ufos, God, afterlife, angels, demons, dopplegangers. The interesting thing about the theory, is the match works all the way
back to the big bang. It is the only working theory that has an acceptable beginning to our universe.

The celebrity darling scientist of this theory is at CUNY, Michio Kaku. I may be switching out my who do I want to meet person on myspace.com from Fran Lebowitz to this guy. Buy I really think I'd prefer a joint meeting.

Membrane theory, is actually called M-Theory.

from wikipedia "introduction to M-Theory"

M-Theory is not yet complete, but the underlying structure of the mathematics has been established, and is in seamless agreement with not only all the String Theories but with all of our scientific observations of the universe. Unfortunately, until we can find a way to mechanically observe higher dimensions (impossible with our current level of technology) M-Theory has a very difficult time making predictions which can be tested in a laboratory, so technically, it may never be possible for it to be "proven." However, many cosmologists, including Stephen Hawking, are drawn to M-Theory because of its breathtaking mathematical elegance and relative simplicity. Physicist and bestselling author Michio Kaku has remarked that M-Theory may present us with a "Theory of Everything" which is so concise that its underlying formula would fit on a T-Shirt.

-end cite

The higher dimensions mentioned are more than 4. We currently can cognitively realize width depth height and time. This theory uses 12. I am going to introduce elementary matrices here, so see if this does not blow some minds.

• imagine a single point.
• imagine this point being expanded into an infinitely long number line.
• Now allow this line to be represented by a symbol, I will call alpha.
• Now imagine an infinite stacked series of these in a line; Alpha, Beta, Gamma, etc creating a field.
• now allow this "field" to represented by a symbol, I will call Aleph
• Now imagine an infinite stacked series of these in a line, Aleph Vet Gimel, etc
• now allow this "cube" to represented by a symbol, I will call Fé

this structure can be easily visualized as a black box room, with white grids on all six surfaces. (Jeff the "holodeck" On ST:TNG, Voy)

• Now imagine an infinite series of these in a line, Fé ûruz þurisaz , etc

this is where my mind blows.

• now allow this "thing" to represented by a symbol, I will call "Dasher"
• Now imagine an infinite series of these in a line, "Dancer", "Dancer", "Prancer", etc
• now allow this "thing" to represented by a symbol, I will call "The Datapoint 2200"
• Now imagine an infinite series of these in a line, "The Datapoint 2200", "Heathkit H-8", "TRS-80", etc
• now allow this "thing" to represented by a symbol, I will call "Battleship"
• "Battleship", "Cannon", "Toto"
• now allow this "thing" to represented by a symbol, I will call "Tootles"
• "Tootles", "Nibs" "Slightly", etc.
• now allow this "thing" to represented by a symbol, I will call "Adams"
• Adams, Aheme, Albee, etc

I think you get the format now, so I will abbreviate it by the notation s1 s2 s3 where S1 is alpha, S2 is Beta, & S3 is Gamma etc.

• Koch, Cargill, Chrysler, etc
• Masa,The French Laundry, Alinea, etc.
• Glyph-1, Glyph-2, Glyph-3, etc.

LEGEND:

1. Naughtsies: My point
   
2. Onsies: Greek
3. Twosies: Hebrew
   
4. Threesies: Runic
   
5. Foursies: Santa's Reindeer
   
6. Fivesies: History of Desktop Computers
   
7. Sixies: Monopoly Game Pieces
8. Sevensies: Peter Pan Lost Boys
   
9. Eightsies: What's My Line? Mystery Guests
   
10. Ninesies: Largest Private US Companies
    
11. Tensies: Priciest US Restaurants
    
12. Elevensies: Your Own Personal Gylph design!
    

The More You Know TM

• Parallel Thessalonians
  
• Parallel Ephesians
  
• Homo se wha?
  
• My MySpace
• The "Nun Study"
• Nirvana
• introduction to M-Theory
• Lost Boys
  
• Relativity
• Special
• General
  
• Big Daddy Max Theory of


• 
  

-a Mind conscious of what is right.

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Fisting and God's Will

Fisting and God's Will: "Fisting and God's Will
May 30, 2006 new!

The sex act called fisting is a source of confusion and misconceptions for many Christians. This is unfortunate, because it means that many Christian men and women are depriving themselves of what could be the most spiritual sexual experience of their lives. Like anal sex and BDSM, fisting is often mistakenly associated with the gay community or is considered a sex act too extreme to be appropriate for Christian couples. Not only are these views incorrect, but fisting actually has a scriptural precedent, as we will show."

Wanna ride bikes?

Below is probably my best composed example of how it can be with Attention Deficit Disorder. I posted it to Myspace.

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I have a slight case of attention deficit disorder and am taking adderall for it. Within the first hour or so after taking it, I get real chatty. People on the phone with me notice the difference right away. Today I happen to be at the keyboard. I thought I'd just let my stream of consciousness flow. I have no idea what I am going to say. I'll keep going until the eTour stops.

My parents bought a cabin up on Minnesota's Gunflint Trail. Also on that trail is a lodge called Windigo Lodge. I saw the name and remembered an episode of Supernatural about one such being. So I've done some net searching. The windigo is kind of both a state of being and a spirit. When someone is lost in the woods, to the point of cannibalistic urges, they can be overtaken by the windigo. The windigo is also described as a frozen giant with a heart of ice. The creature seems to be primarily in the northern part of of the continent. (N America)

I kind of want to get some good windigo stories to tell as ghost stories up at the cabin. But I'm afraid my nephew may be too young for them. There is one at the project gutenberg. I haven't read it yet. It has a slightly different spelling.

The term derives from the Algonquian root word "witiku", though throughout the tribes and times the term's spelling varies: Wendigo, Windego, Wetiko, Windago, Windikouk, and so on.

I think I like the them all. But may finalize that to one only, when I get the tales ready.

What strikes me about my mini research on this topic is that no being strikes more fear in the people than this beast. There is thought that the mythology evolved out of caution to be careful out in the woods and the taboo against cannibalism. There is a mental disorder called Windigo Psychosis where a person believes themselves to be inhabited by the spirit and acts as such. The big foot legends have adopted much of the windigo lore as well. Sceptics would point out that prior to about 1950 the term bigfoot didn't much exist, but by merging windigo lore into it the phenomenon goes back centuries. I also found a book, I may want to look for at the Library. It's Field Guide to North American Monsters.

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Topic change
the students had their summer finals last week, and as a result last night was pretty sleepy down-town. It may be the heat, but nearly everyone I know was tired yesterday. I dozed for about two hours when I could have been out taxiing people around. I went out for a bit, and did a few short hops, but nothing too major. So I went off duty and took a rare Friday Night off. I had myself a cool refreshing summer drink, a Gin & Tonic, that just happened to have been a mistake, and was very refreshed. I went home and due to my nap earlier, I was awake until about 7 this morning. Its a good thing I have always been a night owl.

My first real job was at Perkins. I worked weekends and usually had the 10pm - 6 am bus-boy and dish washing shift. I got out of that later, but it seemed to set the stage for later trends. After college I was in theater management. We'd have to work until 12:30 or so, and if we wanted to socialize we did so then. Often we'd corral ourselves at a centrally located bar and make last call. It was not uncommon to have after parties at out houses until the wee hours.

Recently when I was working at Mia's we'd stay up until the wee hours after work. And now that the bars stay open until 2:30 it just drags it out even further. As a sober ride home, I have learned though, if it takes them until 4:00 am to close Mia's, they are usually to much in a party mood for me to want to deal with. But they've figured out a way to get me to buy into the plan. It is to get me involved in delivering their car home.

You see, I don't mind staying out until 4 5 6 whatever it takes. But I want it to be a sure thing. I will happily drive until 7:30 if I have airport reservations to fill. But I do not like sitting out, and waiting just on the outside chance they may need me to drive them. By their having me move their car, it commits them to me for the later hour, and I do not get impatient.

I am on medicare now. Its kind of weird that it makes me feel old. When the old crone on the life alert commercial says "every ... senior ... citizen ... needs ... life ... alert" I pay a little extra attention. But after reading online complaints about the company, I don't feel all that compelled. I am most excited about my drug plan. I spent about $600 on drugs a month for my condition. It is the primary reason I work. Once I get on the plan, I will want to run my numbers and see how much I can cut back from working. My dog is a wiggly worm. The miniature dachshund, Boudain, likes to lay on the bed next to me, and roll on his back and wiggle. Its the cutest. He'll also burrow under the covers using his nose like an elephant would. His snout is so long its like a mole's. It makes sense, though, I guess since they were badger hunters. They'd dig down into the dens after badgers. Of course we all know badgers are nice fluffy mammals with gum-drops for teeth, and candy corns for claws, so the task would have been an easy one. These days My Badger Dog stalks much more dangerous prey: toys. It does not matter what it is. If I pick something up, and say "It's Mine" he's over to me trying to take it way. Its about the only way he'll come now. He does not want to miss out on any of the cool stuff.

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The More You Know

• The Cryptid Zoo: Windigo (or Wendigo)
• Wendigo in Wikipedia
• Windigo Systems
• Winnebago Motor Homes
• Wisconsin's Lake Winnebago
• Win at Bingo
• Perkins

*** Boudain's picture is not on this site currently.

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booty call

met with my bootcall fuck buddy last night.
He sent me a quick text
want to suck each other's dicks?
to which I replied
that goes without saying
we got together in about an hour, he answered his door in his underwear, we went up to his room and got naked.

I cannot even express how built this guy is. He kind of reminds me of the football player from Queer as Folk.

I do not do casual much at all, and it had been a while. Apparentlym my colleagues noted how much nicer I am. We may have to start meeting more often.

-a Mind concious of what is right.

This is the motto on the Phillips coat of arms.

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Coffee may cut alcohol liver damage | Health | Reuters.co.uk

Coffee may cut alcohol liver damage | Health | Reuters.co.uk

I drank a lot of coffee. My dor always told me I had good liver function for someone that drank as much as I did. AND I really only admitted to half what I really drank. But since my heart surgery I only have 1-2 drinks per week, compared to 4-5 drinks per day before.

Meanwhile

as the Church distances itself from works of fiction, the daVinci Code, meanwhile:

nvestigators said the nun, Margaret Ann Pahl, 71, was strangled and then stabbed, with nine wounds on her chest forming the shape of an inverted cross, a well-recognised Satanic symbol.

An altar cloth was draped over her half-naked body, which was posed as if she had been sexually assaulted.

"It was about how he could humiliate her the most," prosecutor Dean Mandros said in closing arguments. "He left a message for everyone to see ... maybe to God himself."

the initial suspect, Rev Robinson was found guilty after his interogation was interupted by church officials.

--Motto--
Mens conscia recti
-a Mind concious of what is right.

This is the motto on the Phillips coat of arms.

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NDE

I had a near death experience (nde) last week. I was sure I was dying. As I lay in my bed in a near fetal position, I wondered if it was the end. I was feeling physically horrible, I'd been puking and had horrible indigestion. I am not sure if I had any heart issues or not, but I took the Nitro pills just in case. I had none of the classic feelings of an attack.

But the weird part of the experience is as I closed my eyes, I could see things "through" my eyelids. This is not an unusual exprience for me, usually its star fields. But every so often it is a silouette. Recently I have taken this silouette to be that of my guardian angel. Spirit guide, what have you. But this time it was a team of them. I looked carefully for a field of light, not seeing anyting but the shadowy shapes. It was like they were filing past me and considering my situation.

I got the intense impression that a decision was made that it was not my "time" and the filed away. No matter how hard I tried to recreate the phenomenon, I only got the star field sensation after that truth time. The next morning I felt terrific.

I've read a lot about NDEs and have understood a collection of friends and family come to meet you to cross over. I do not know if that what was going on, but It was pretty weird.

The whole experience reminded me that I have not taken any steps to take care of my estate in case anything like that does happen. I need to make plans for a will and a living will.

--Motto--
Mens conscia recti
-a Mind concious of what is right.

This is the motto on the Phillips coat of arms.

PLEASE STAND BY...

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